Sorry for the crazy top photo, but for those of you who saw the Tetra 2 Lite frame presented almost a year ago were probably expecting something like this. Indeed, thanks to its tetrahedral structure, this frame is very strong against vertical forces at the four motor mountings. However, because the four braces connecting the upper and lower arms are thin vertical plates, they are not strong at all against horizontal forces, which may induce horizontal frame resonance due to strong vibration of the motors and props. Therefore, it seems important to use appropriate motors and undamaged props. In this post, I present an example of such a build that behaves well enough to enjoy HD FPV in casual flight.
I have found that simply scaling up the Tetra 2 Lite frame does not work well for larger builds. This is because when scaled up, weaknesses in the frame that do not affect 2” builds become obvious.
I think M1.4 screws and nuts are strong enough for carbon plates of up to 1.5mm thickness. However, they are apt to loosen easier than M2 ones. Therefore, it should be used with Loctite or adhesive. Since the screw head diameter is only 2.5 mm, I also used M1.4 washers. As with the frame of the Tetra 2 Lite, assembly is a bit tedious, but once you get used to it, it will be easier.
This frame has enough space for the FC and ESC stack with a double-PCB HD VTX. This makes it easy to mount a variety of electronic devices.
As usual, I ran the PIDtoolbox Basement tuning in angle mode before flying it outdoors. No special tuning was required for this build.
On the test flight using a GNB 4S 650mAh 160C battery, I performed 0-100% slow throttle punches, some quick flips and rolls, and obtained a blackbox log file. I think the results are good enough to enjoy HD FPV for casual flight. In the Freq. vs Throttle Gyro-Scaled Roll chart, you can see a vague resonance, which appears as a vertical band, at about 200Hz. This weak resonance is not harmful to this build, but could be stronger in builds with higher vibrational motors and/or props.
Frame |
Tetra 3 for 20mm Wide Camera Kit (Carbon Only)
Armattanproductions.com
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$21.40 |
ESCs |
Tmotorhobby Official store
Tmotorhobby.com
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See Site |
Motors |
4 x FPVCycle 16mm Motor - 4100Kv
(10 builds)
Fpvcycle.com
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$71.96 |
Propellers |
HQProp Duct-76MMX8 for Cinewhoop Grey (2CW+2CCW)-Poly Carbonate
(3 builds)
Hqprop.com
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$2.79 |
Batteries |
GAONENG GNB LiHV 4S 15.2V 650mAh 160C XT30 LiPo Battery for FPV Drone Quads
Gaoneng.shop
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$31.25 |
very nice! I built an analog version of the 2.5" version you posted on armattan a while back. I was having a great time flying it on 3s and 4s, though I crashed it and need to epoxy the bottom plate. I wish I had a picture of the drone itself to post, but it is in pieces right now ... going to try and rebuild it to make it lighter than my first build which I had done in a rush. any plans to model a 3.5" version? and do you think you might list the tetras on cncdrones?
That version of the 2.5” Tetra kit was designed in response to requests received in messages on this site, and was only available for a short period of one month. It was actually the first prototype of the 2.5" Tetra, which I enjoyed flying with 1404 3800KV motors, but had strong frame resonance at 160-210Hz which still remained with the default filters. Since then I have been trying to improve it along with the 3" versions. Now finally released at Armattan productions, it is no longer lightweight. If you don't mind the 2.5g weight increase, the URL for the Tetra 25 (for 14mm wide camera) kit is https://armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/3348.
I have already designed the first prototype of the 3.5” Tetra, but have not yet built it. I have to modify the design of braces, because the longer braces might have frame resonance at visible frequency (~100Hz), which is not acceptable for HD FPV. It will take time to release the 3.5” Tetra because I have another project. I hope to release it within 6 months.
If you wish, I would like to list the Tetra series on cncdrones.
glad i was able to get one of the prototype collector's edition! :) the version you built with the o4 lite looks great. 2.5g seems like a reasonable trade off for the increased durability. i built mine with 6000kv 1202.5 motors, 65g dry weight. no top end thrust to speak of, but it was great for gliding along like a little bird. i was flying it over a frigid winter sea so I didn't get a realistic impression of flight time -- it was about 5 minutes to 3.5v with 450mah HV 3s or 4s fighting a freezing wind. but i expect in warmer weather it would fly for longer. i may transfer the build over to this 3" version that you've built for the sake of comparison. personally i would love if the tetra series was on cncdrones. :) looking forward to the 3.5" tetra and whatever you come up with next!
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Work of art man 👏👏
Thank you!
I know there are still improvements to be made, but time is running out and I decided to release this version of Tetra 3 before Tetra 2 Lite is completely forgotten. I would like to make other styles of drones.
What other frames do you have planned or would like to pursue? I would love to see more of your designs!
I have two prototype frames in work. One is a true-x quad frame (3-3.5") for double stack mounting, with tetrahedral construction for each of the four adjacent motor pairs. It is not as rigid as a simple Tetra frame, but it is easier to repair and has a lower CG. The other is a rather experimental frame that uses a servo to keep the battery in the horizontal position as it flies forward to reduce the aerodynamic drag. This is actually the second prototype. The first one flew well but was a bit fragile.
There are two other prototypes in abeyance, one for the Micro Hexa and one for the Tiny Octo. The motor layout is flat, but the footprint is smaller than a normal frame. Even though the motor layout is different from the regular hexagon or octagon, I found that they fly well if the motor mixer is set properly. These prototypes will be reconsidered after the above two projects.
That is absolutely incredibly my guy. What benefit does the first prototype have over the conventional toothpick platform? Still a pretty cool concept though while using similar tetrahedral construction from the smaller variants. I'm curious to see what that second prototype looks like. Seems like its focused on speed given you're prioritizing lowering drag.
very interesting work man! this is the exact reason why I follow you XD do you happen to have a YT channel where you showcase these frames? Would love to find more of your work if you have it on other platforms.
I think the ideal CG position for a multicopter is the center of thrust. Therefore, when I started my Tetra project I intended to mount two batteries connected in series under the upper arm, but this idea was abandoned because i realized it would be too cumbersome to prepare for each flight. Therefore, unless the battery is very light, the CG position is far from ideal. On the other hand, with current technology, the actual C-rate of LiPo batteries is rather better for larger ones. Therefor, in order to maximize thrust with the CG position close to the ideal potion, I think it would be a good option to build a long platform quad with a double stack configuration using the tetrahedral structure, if possible.
Lately, many people are building super fast quads with rocket style shells. I too like to fly fast, but I have no intention of participating in top speed races. I just want to enjoy more efficient high speed cruising without an aerodynamic shell.
I have only registered on YT, but not yet published. I am not very active on social media, so don't get your hopes up.