Thank you! It was a fun build.

This thing is fast! Substantially more powerful than my TP3 3" with 1303's. In fact, I'm really interested to replace the 1303's on my TP3 3" with these so I can do an 'apples to apples' comparison. Will report back when I do.

Okay thanks for the info!
I just build my own 3" decased quad with top mounted bat. It weighs 84g dry, so 124g with GNB3s450. I also feel it is a biiit under powered on Robo1204 from flywoo. I have some 1303,6 apex motors I might try on 3,5" now then. If they do not work well I guess I have to try the FPV Cycle (love his motors) I just hate the 2 mm shaft..

How do you drill your props and did you ever have noise issues as result of bad drilling?

Ya, Bob's 1304's are great. I'm impressed. The 1303 apex motors should work well too. Funny you should ask about prop holes. Bob sells a jig but it's perpetually out of stock. I found a similar printed version on Thingiverse and it does a a great job. I just put up some pictures on Thingiverse at this link. it makes the process super easy. https://www.thingiverse.com/make:933719

Thank you! It is a great frame, and one of my favourite machines.

So dry it weighs 235g, and with an 850mAh 4S pack it is 333g - sadly nowhere near the 250g 'limit'.

I had it cut by a friend of mine and his DIY-cnc. Especially for prototyping this is the most easy way :-)

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Ya, I was curious too. After 20 flights I can honestly say that i don't even notice it. Keep in mind that it's 82grams dry and 124grams AUW. 40 of those grams are battery below the frame. it feels very similar to my analog TP3 3" but measurably faster.

For sure more thrust and felt more responsive but I was also adjusting the tune. I like the hq 8x4x3 props since they are the same profile as the hq 7x4x3 just bigger as opposed to the Macro hq 8x4.5x3 props which seem too heavy and amp hungry for my motors. I did crash it and finally got around to replacing the receiver since antenna ripped out when it crashed and damaged the board. Will do some proper testing this upcoming weekend for flight time.

Thanks man, great info!
Just to be clear, you liked the Hq slowflyer biblades, not the macro one?

Yes, slowfyer bi blads better than the HQ macro 8x4.5x3 but the HQ macro 8x4x3 that are the 4.0 pitch (https://pyrodrone.com/products/hq-macroquad-prop-8x4x3ccw-black-glass-fiber-nylon) are the best from initial testing.

Thanks! I just ordered some Master Airscrew 8" biblades. Curious to try those out! Have you tried any Master Airscrew props? They are much lighter than the HQ props..

https://www.masterairscrew.com/collections/all-products/products/mr-series-8x4-5-prop-set-x2-orange

I have not tried any Master Airscrew yet but will probably try them in the near future. Let me know how they do for you. What is your 8" set up?

Sure I will let you know! I think its gonna take at least a month though..

Its my own custom frame with those 30 mm motors, 65A tekko32 ESC and 6s 3300 gnb. Auw is now less than 1,1kg without gopro.

I will have to get some 8 inch arms and it takes roughly a month from I order to I get them. Just finished updating the design today.

When I decide if I go with 7 or 8 inch then I will post the build here as well as the frame will be available for anyone who wants one. I will most likely let People choose between 8 and 7 inch arms in deadcat or wide x configuration. Obviously 7" will be more durable in that case.

With 30 mm motors i mean fpv cycle 30mm motor on 1450 kv:)

I already did some changes to it. Although I think that the build I post here is still really good and offers an amazing flight.

First one was the ESC not initializing correctly sometimes (~2 out of 10 times). That was kind off anyoing, but I think I just was unlucky with the ESC i got. This was a bit anoying but nothing too bad.

Additionally I saw quite some recommendations on the RevoltOSD Flight Controller using FalcoX firmware. I was very sceptical about their firmware as they make nonsense marketing claims. So after seeing people switch and somehow I got manipulated to test it as well... It really feels much better then betaflight. Feels like the quad is on rails and you are really in control. While I was already at it I also went for the Hobbywing Xrotor 60A ESC...

So yeah while this build still is really nice. The new changes made it amazing :D

I also switched to aluminium screws to shape of some weight.

Thanks for the prompt reply. I really appreciate that.

BTW, which battery did you go for and what kind of flight time do you expect out of this build?

i have different ones. I have one tattu r-line v3 1550mah I tested and 6 mylipo 75C 1600 mah. I get around 2 - 5 Minutes of flight time. Depends on how much I am pushing the quad...

Do you still have a picture of how the Hobbywing 60a ESC fitted in your frame? I'm also building an apex with that esc and it's a real struggle to get it all fit together. I'm also worried if the capacitor touching my vtx antenna might cause some distortion in my video...

I didn't find any picture where it's visible, but I faced similar issues. I got rid of the vtx antenna mount included by the frame and just used a zip tie to mount it to the top plate using electrical tape to make sure the antenna connector is not touching the carbon directly. The connector is indeed touching the capacitor, but that didn't cause any trouble for me. Just make sure it's not touching the legs of the capacitor and I think you should be good.

Wow, thanks for your quick reply! Okay so far the antenna is only touching the capacitor, not the carbon or anything else, so I might me lucky with how it is right now. FC is the only thing that I need to install, so well see this weekend how the first flight will go.

hi! Thank you! I built this quad to my friend, so i cannot tell how well it flies. But this quad has been his favorite to go quad, so i guess it flies really good 😁

Website is live! craftedkwads.com check out my update above for some more info. I can talk for ages about the arms, but long story short they are regular arms, but there is a lockplate instead of a second set of screws, with 2 nubs that correspond with the different angles.

Thank you for the comments! Much appreciated. So this is my third decased vista build with the other two both having top mounted batteries. I've traditionally liked the top mounted batteries better up until the Toothpick evolution. I honestly don't have a huge preference anymore as this new build has a great COG and it's super light. In fact, I'm so used to flying micros that I might even prefer the bottom battery position. There was a point when I transitioned from top to bottom where I had to think about the rotation and purposely tell my brain to compensate. I don't ever do that anymore. And particularly not with something this light. Just my thoughts, I know some of my flying buddies have different opinion.

As it relates to the power situation for the Vista, I had some issues with one of my first cased vista builds where the FC manufacturer claimed 9V of regulated power but was not the case. Through lots of trial and error, I moved to vbat and it Immediately solved the problem. That was over a year ago so I suspect this board would be just fine on the regulated power.

The 1304's are super powerful for the additional .6 grams each versus the 1303 version.. As noted above, the 3.5" setup on top of the more powerful motors are really make for a great powertrain. It's super fast and hovers, (without any setup changes) at about 20%. I personally think there's a point were the standard TP3 3" feels sluggish based on weight. For me it's 110grams. And that's the reason I was excited to build this new on with the 1304's. With that, I also thought that the 1304's might be too much for my analog TP3 3"'s that are both at roughly 105grams. I don't know yet because I haven't tried it but will report back when I do.

Video to come!