You can remap the motor resources in Betaflight and solder whichever motor to whichever esc pads make the most sense.

I thought it would work out so much better than it did. It works, it's just not near as fun as I had hoped. I've thought about 2s, but the only 2s motors I can find are less than half the kv, do I don't know if it would do any good, especially with the heavier battery too

Similar punch, less consumption, and no vibrations anymore

RS1106 6000kv with KK 2840 props have no problems. I have some 3025 props but I'm testing rx2535 before

I think that the 5+ min on full throttle flighttime makes it long range :)
And the XM+ can go probably 2+km easily
and the 200mw vtx compared to standard 25mw on similiar builds

Fair enough. I think long range is relative. Considering this is such a small craft "long range" is relative.

Exactly :)

It's a fair question, and I will have to give it more crashes/time to give a definitive answer. However, it is 5mm carbon, it has less flex than racers with 3mm carbon plates, it is under 250grams AUW and the forces in a crash are directly proportional to the mass, your average 5 inch goes for about 400grams to 600, this being half that, the forces involved when it crashes are halved. My previous sub 259gram 5 inch has the same width of arm. I have crashed that a fair amount, without counting the damaged props, it has twice wrecked motors in crashes and the frame, other than scuffs on the carbon, has survived completely intact

That's impressive! I'm continually shocked at how well my light weight crafts take crashes. Like you said, force is proportional to mass. I didn't realize that was 5mm carbon.

Thanks for the suggestion, I think you are right. If I try a longer distance I will get a better lipo for sure.

As per the photo above with everything including props and no battery it is 355g I have just changed the Antenna to an AXII ufl and added the GoPro mount base and it is 353g now (Without GoPro or housing). See picture with Go pro just added.
Have flown it for a few minutes and it is quick (in my opinion) and handles great.

Thanks for the quick reply! Sweet, that's about what I was expecting. I hope I can shave off a few grams to stay below 500g with battery. Looks like the AXII ufl is much lighter than the pagoda, good to know! Guess you're sparing the weight of the SMA connector.

Thanks ! Rotorbuilds threw a fit yesterday and wouldnt show any parts lists. I think i fixed it

Thanks!
I just started a channel, there's a video where I build a tiny hd cam and put it on this quad, it's not the best flying because it was windy and my pids need work haha.
youtube.com/c/nomand

Cheers!

Hi mate, rotorgeeks kindly sent me both to test (3200 and 2800kv). It was very prop dependent, on both 5030 and 5045 the 3200 were slightly faster although there was a bit of a plateau at the top end on 3200 with 5045, 5040 were the fastest props but the 3200kv at WOT were again plateauing and kicking the hell out the lipo, with dramatic voltage sags. On 3s you get a fast agile quad with good flight times with either so would probably run 3200 for that extra bit of speed, if you want the fastest though with viability for racing on 4s then 2800kv with 5040 props is the sweet spot.
The best quads I have (and I have a lot) are my kinetic aerial air-ro running F20ii, they match most of my 5 inch for speed but have the agility of micro due to the low weight. Thirs sort of 5 inch have the same agility but more speed. Hence for freestyle/acro an ultralight 4 inch with F20ii is, imho, pretty unbeatable, but this has an advantage for racing (assuming the track allows you to use the speed)