raptor 210 SX '6s'

By SugarK on Sep 24, 2018

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this is the current version of my Raptor airframe which now has a few differnt pod designs and an arm brace to keep the airframe stiffness more stable over time. it inclueds a shorter main plate to suit the pod designs and now the sandwitch plates are all 2.5mm for a bit more stiffness. im constidering putting the airframe on armattan and the pod design on thingy if people are interersted on a sorted 20x20 stretch X racer with a true 1 bolt arm system...

so this build is set up for full time 6s madness but in keeping with my attitude that low KV is for sissys i've gone with a set of 2150kv Tmotor f40pro2s.. this should be right on the limit of what most of the currrent modern props will cope with power and rpm wise and if not... well HQ have a new range of props for 6s that ive been running on my 6s 2350kv acro build that can actually handle more than 30000rpm.. im hoping the Tmotor props can cope as they are really bloody nice to fly but i think im been a little bit wishfull on that one as they are very 'light' props..
either way i expect this one to be really bloody quick but right on the verge of what is raceable by a much better pilot than my self..
the other great thing anout the airframe/avionics/motor combo is i already have a pair of 4s race rigs on the same set up and have a nearly perfect tune which will at most requre a small increase in tpa to move over to the new qwad and 6s

weights
259g no props
280g with HQ 5.1x4.6x3 props
479g with same props and bonka 1000mah 6s pack

much better video with some nice low passes on the new HQ 5.1x3.1 props

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Part List

Frame

Raptor 210mm SX race qwad (4 builds)
Armattanproductions.com
$59.89

Flight Controller

OMNIBUS F4 Nano v6 with LC filter (57 builds)
Store.myairbot.com
$29.99

ESCs

Ori32 4in1 ESC 4x25A 2020 (83 builds)
Store.myairbot.com
$44.99

Motors

4 x T-Motor F40 Pro II v2 2306 2150kv 5s Mini Quad Motor (8 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site

Propellers

T-Motor T5143 Tri Blade Propellers CW/CCW 1 Pack (4 Pieces) (9 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site

FPV Camera

Foxeer Arrow Micro Pro 4:3 600TVL OSD 5-40v w/ 1.8m Lens (241 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site

FPV Transmitter

AKK FX5(16*16/Built in OSD) (4 builds)
Akktek.com
$15.99

Antenna

TrueRC AXII U.FL 5.8GHZ Antenna (9 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site

Receiver

FrSky R9 Mini 900MHz Long Range Receiver (57 builds)
Getfpv.com
$19.99

Batteries

Bonka 1000mAh 95c 6s XT60 Lipo Battery BKU2-1000/95-6S (5 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site

Radio

Radiomaster TX16S MAX Edition Radio (BLOW OUT CLEARANCE) (2 builds)
Rotorvillage.ca
$349.99

Radio

Boxer Max Radio Controller (M2)
Radiomasterrc.com
See Site

Goggles

DJI Goggles 2 (7 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$648.99

Goggles

HDZero Goggle | HDZERO (16 builds)
Hd-zero.com
$599.99

HD Camera

GoPro HERO8 Black - Waterproof Action Camera with Touch Screen 4K Ultra HD Video 12MP Photos 1080p Live Streaming Stabilization (37 builds)
Amazon.com
$2.00

Misc Parts

Rotor Riot UMMAGRIP Universal Super Sticky Battery Pad (175 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site

Video Receiver

HDZero VRX Digital HD Receiver Module (7 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$219.00

Radio Module

Happymodel ES24TX 2,4 GHz ExpressLRS ELRS s dlhým dosahom, nízkou latenciou a vysokým opätovným blikaním modulu Micro TX p (6 builds)
Banggood.com
$45.99

Battery Charger

HOTA D6 Pro 325W 15A 1-6S Dual Channel AC/DC Smart Charger w/ Wireless Cellphone Charging - Choose Your Color (53 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$117.99

Battery Charger

ISDT Q6 Pro BattGo 300W 14A Battery Balance Charger (47 builds)
Getfpv.com
See Site

Soldering Iron

MINI TS100 Digital OLED Programmable Interface DC5525 Soldering Iron Station Built-in STM32 Chip (264 builds)
Banggood.com
$53.99

Accessories

FuriousFPV 18650 Smart Power Case V2 FPV-0384V2-S (4 builds)
Phaserfpv.com.au
See Site
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Zzyzx   Oct 27, 2018  

Frame & canopy design looks nice! Will the RunCam Micro Eagle fit in the frame and under the canopy? It has the M12 lens instead of the M8 lens the Arrow Micro has, so just wondering if the wider lens will fit? I think the cameras are both basically the same 19x19mm form factor, just the lens is wider, but the Eagle handles the cloudy/sunny lighting here in Oregon better. Thx!

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Zzyzx   Nov 27, 2018 

The camera body itself is pretty standard size. It's just that it has the full size M12 lens in it, so the opening might need to be a bit wider? The RunCam site doesn't show the lens dimension, it's 15mm wide.

SugarK   Nov 28, 2018 

sorted man.. got 1mm clearance either side and uses the currnet best pod design

SugarK   Nov 28, 2018 

if you order the airframe contact me and i'll send you the build guild zip file that has the stl files and tunes to suit the airbot stack in both 4 and 6s

wiytboi   Sep 25, 2018  

hay so let me get this right.. thats an ori... not a ori32.. ori32 is a square, ok now next your running a 6s lipo on a 25amp 4s rated board, and its all good.? cause i got that same setup basiclly, only difference is i dont have the v6, just plain f4.. so your telling me i can plug a 6s into it no issue huh.. have you tried that yet? did it go up, then come down in flames? whats the point in rating a esc if is just a ly? im just curious cause ive seen 6s rated 4in1 esc that didnt last longer then 2 packs, and here you are telling me that a 4s rated 4in1 esc is doing what the rest couldnt.. whoa thats hard to believe, but hay why not ill give it a whirl, can go 1 of 2 ways your right and then hell ya, or it doesnt and well proved your full lof shit.. im excited, cant wait to see which it is.. wont ly tho, im leaning heavily on your full of it.

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SugarK   Oct 08, 2018 
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to be honest the whole 32k thing is just a bigger number with no real benifit to the user.. its only an advantange of .09ms over an 8/8k set up and comes with a massive increase in noise that then needs to be fitlered out creating more PID latency. at 8k8k you are already operating way faster than the motors can responed to inputs. i have been test flying new BF code that has the stage one gyro and dterm LPF filiters tracking the throttle input and moving up with it.. the result is when you are at a higher throttle setting than idle the filters are not sitting down at 100hz ( or what every you have them set to ) giving a fixed amount of delay into the PID loop.. the higher the throttle the higher the filter tracks and reduces its delay into the PID loop.. the upshot is prop wash is very differcult to create and when it does happen the duration is very small.. its awesome stuff..
at this point the increase in speed does not offest the increase in noise

MaxSendFPV   Oct 09, 2018 

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this, it makes so much sense but I never thought about it, thanks again you also saved me some money.

SugarK   Oct 13, 2018 

so I've put my airframe up on Armattan productions if any one wants a dialled light weight racing quad. i can provide a dialled 4 or6s tune if you build using the same stack st up that i do. she's a 20x20 native with a true one bolt arm system, axii/pigtail antenna mount and a micro cam. i have 3d printing files for the pod and camera holders if you were to use the flat plate
https://armattanproductions.com/pages/kit_detail/2022

wiytboi   Sep 25, 2018  

hay so let me get this right.. thats an ori... not a ori32.. ori32 is a square, ok now next your running a 6s lipo on a 25amp 4s rated board, and its all good.? cause i got that same setup basiclly, only difference is i dont have the v6, just plain f4.. so your telling me i can plug a 6s into it no issue huh.. have you tried that yet? did it go up, then come down in flames? whats the point in rating a esc if is just a ly? im just curious cause ive seen 6s rated 4in1 esc that didnt last longer then 2 packs, and here you are telling me that a 4s rated 4in1 esc is doing what the rest couldnt.. whoa thats hard to believe, but hay why not ill give it a whirl, can go 1 of 2 ways your right and then hell ya, or it doesnt and well proved your full lof shit.. im excited, cant wait to see which it is.. wont ly tho, im leaning heavily on your full of it.

SugarK   Sep 25, 2018 

wiytboi   Sep 26, 2018 

not to shabby.. I gotta remember tho when people say 6s these days. there's more then 1 style of 6s.. the racer 6s which is like a vtec 4s, and 6s that I know hitting speeds of 130mph-150mph, high kv motors, maybe 6in 6s. that's one of my favs. storm 2207 2300kv, hq 6045 v1s bi blades on a 1300 rline 6s.

SugarK   Sep 27, 2018 

new video.. better contdtions, props and tune

Jodie Froster   Sep 24, 2018  

Is that a magnetic usb port adapter?!?!?!?!? Also: your frame design is pretty awesome, good job

SugarK   Sep 24, 2018 
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yeah its good for flight testing when your pulling lots of black box logs

Jodie Froster   Sep 24, 2018 

dayum, you fancy

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