Maybe, but first I'll build it myself and test it 😁

Thank you 😁 Do you mean a 16x16 stack or is there really already a 12x12 stack? That would be crazy small!

haha yeah a 16x16 stack my bad lol

Fishpepper actually did come up with a 12x12 stack at some point I believe.

Well, I remember only 2 years ago we had thoose gigantic 12A SimonK ESC and everybody thought that it won't get any smaller. And what do we have now? 55A 4in1 ESC.
That's why I think we will see more than 12A ESC in that size 😁

If youve seen one of the current 16x16 12a boards than you know they are literally packed. The PCB has no more room lol. It actually took like 2 years to go from 5a 16x16 stacks to 12a ones so maybe at some point we will see something higher but id be surprised if it was soon. I hope bob releases a 3" 26x26 frame though. I could see that being a game changer.

Since I am designing my own frames it's no problem at all to design a 26x26 frame. But that's huge! I want it to be small. And btw, the old SimonK where also packed. It's the components that get smaller. Think of CPUs and how small the transistors got...

It would sure be nice dont get me wrong lol. Id like at least a 15a one thatd open up so many possibilities. I wish there was more effort put into 16x16 frame design also. This frame looks amazing and is probably one of the only ones ive seen that lets you protect the camera under a canopy as opposed to leaving it totally exposed.

Yes, 15A would for sure be very nice.
I'll try the 12A one, I'll post updates here 😁

I wanted to go with 1407, also at 4s. But maybe 1306 will also work out. I want this to be an absolute monster :D

That is a really really great design!! But why not keep it light and quiet with some 1404/1306 ~6000kV motors and a 450mah 3S or 4500kV on a small 4S? Combined with light 3025 / 3035 props. Makes much more sense for a 16x16 design. 1407 with a heavy 650mah 4S will just obliterate any 16x16 in seconds and there are already sooo many heavy 3" monster builds out there.

I wanted to build it as powerful and light as possible but maybe you're right, a 1306 build could work well too, since it's so light. I want to reach the same weight to power ratio as on my 5" racer 😁

Oh and btw, thank you 😁

How much will the frame weight?

it should come in at max. 21g.

Can you give me some motor suggestions? Wich ones are good? Have never had any small motors before.

I went with the racerstart 1306 motors. I recently cracked a shaft in one of them in a very hard crash, and now have the racerstar 1507's. 1104 would be too small, but I am a fan of my 1104 4000kv DYS motors on 4S spinning 2" props. I think you're looking in the 3600kv range for 1306 on 4S. The racerstar QCS props are good but have absolutely no low end bite. Good for smoothness but not for power (my 3" rig is pretty heavy)

I'd go for some Emax 1306

Btw since Bob Roogi is working on a superlight 3" too I'm kind of following his recommendations at the moment.
He suggests motors in the 10g range. He specifically mentioned 1404 and 1304.
But the EMAX 1306 is the the ball park too with quite exactly 10g.

Let's hope I'll proof you wrong, because I've already ordered the 12A stack 😁

Thank you!

Thank you 😁 If you like this one, check out the "real" Transcend too :D