I land it LOS. Since I can't fly well LOS, I put it into sissy mode (angle) just before I pull off my goggles, bring it in close, then kill it when it is hovering a few inches off the ground. I haven't flown with the APC props yet, I still need to make a speed build with this frame which I hope to do next week.

Hmmm. Yeah. I myself do not fly LOS outside of 2". That... would be a challenge for me. Do you land all of your frames like that? How does the speed canopy stand up to landing like that? I actually pull back and float 'em down. Sometimes I gotta circle for another attempt.... doesn't bother me.
Also: Just watched that printed pusher maiden vid on the 'tube. We wanna see the quad pics (and maybe fly it a few packs... lol. =])! I wanna be the first kid on my block to have a 3D printed ARX variant

Here is what I do. Option 1 when you come in for a landing start making very very tight Spirals and kill the quad about a foot off the ground. Just take some time again practice so that you don't kill the quad too high up. Option 2 would be land near a six to ten foot pole and use that to guide yourself in again kill the quad right before you land on the ground. Basically at 45Deg Cam angle you will just see the tip of a pole in the bottom of your view and that will let you know you are level then get your hight sorted out keeping the pole in view so you do not drift too much.

I usually do #1, but #2 really sounds like something I should try out. Thanks for the advice!

Thanks! I know I mentioned that I wanted to do it before, but it looks like I will start working on 3D printed frrames. I was just telling Froster that the plan to generate some $ for making more carbon fiber prototypes fell through. With 3D printed frames, I can go through thundreds of prototypes with very little cost :)

3D printed frames are so much fun to design! Super cheap, fast prototyping cycles plus more degrees of freedom.
Also they are easy to share with the community. Super curious what you will come up with!
Let me know if I can help you out I've learned quite a lot playing around with 3D printed frames in the last year!

Yes, I will let you know. My first project will be a toothpick class frame. I've been stuck in the 5" world for too long! However, I already printed a rough design of a 5" frame in PLA just to see how the material holds up and I was surprised how well it works

Sounds great! Micros work best for 3D printing. Also tempering the PLA makes a big difference

I LOVE the "bomb shaped" prototypes. The ESCs in the motor cowls is so ill. Have you built an ARX yet?

Thanks, the appreciation is appreciated! Vacuum forming would be great but I have no time to take on that art at the moment. I'm sick in the head in many ways (we all are) and I still have tons of crazy things to try for all frame sizes. I thought selling frames would help get a little $ for bringing more ideas into reality, but I fell flat on my face and that plan will be dead very shortly. So I figure I'll give 3D printed frames a try (printing some test frames right now). I'll be able to go through hundreds of prototypes without breaking the bank. 3D printed frames will be a new animal, but I'm sure it will be fun :D

I already wondered could those arms, binding/main plates be printed. lol.

very sad there wouldnt come evolutions with carbon from you :-( sad sell your beautifull frame doesnt support your pioneer work enough.
very nice there will come some prints. can we have look at the test print process :-) are there allready templates :-)

i have got a question about the arx design, are there some downsides mount the fc vertical?
i tought about a quaddesign where the battery is in the middle of the frame and on onside vertical mounted is the fc on the otherside is the esc. i like to try this on a nanoquad, or im not sure... im sure you mention about this option or know why not to mention about, if you could explain would be very nice.

very sad there wouldnt come evolutions with carbon from you :-( sad sell your beautifull frame doesnt support your pioneer work enough.
very nice there will come some prints. can we have look at the test print process :-) are there allready templates :-)

i have got a question about the arx design, are there some downsides mount the fc vertical?
i tought about a quaddesign where the battery is in the middle of the frame and on onside vertical mounted is the fc on the otherside is the esc. i like to try this on a nanoquad, or im not sure... im sure you mention about this option or know why not to mention about, if you could explain would be very nice.

I actually built a prototype with a vertical battery that is centered and vertical flight controller. There were no problems at all, they can be put in any orientation

My current meter isn't calibrated right so it's more like 7A than 5

or a more modern 2204 maybe? I reckon they're fine with light props like the ones he used, but more kv would be nice yh

I agree. With the power to weight ratio that we have today, weight is overrated. Higher kv definitely but I had these old sunnyskys laying around. I made it to be a more relaxed flyer and I didn't fly it hard at all in the video. Next time I'll fly a little harder.

Oooooh. 2204.5 Hyperlites are killer. I just got a set and put them on an ARS 3D print job with a Mamba MK2 20MM. It is really gonna be hyper LITE! I'm mocking it up at: https://rotorbuilds.com/build/18617

Edit: lol. I just saw that I also just used the exact same stack you did for this on that ARS-5 (my first Mamba anything...)! Dont you think that they could have made it just a little easier to solder? They really pack a lot of wiring into such a little stack. Still... it is powerful, full featured, lite, and it is CHEAP.

I use Xnova 2204 2500kV on a light sub 200g build and they perform great with those very light T-Motor props which are my favourite fot that setup

why is the weight overrated, because of physical limitations which go more worse with less weight? (regardless of windy air)
is it simply because we can choose very enough powerfull motors? because benefits arent usable softwaresupportside?

my toughts was the marketsupport, like lightweight 5" props... or probably the software are the limitations.

I had a fairly low impact crash in the video (stuck in tree, then fell) and it was fine but not a good test. With the battery on, I chucked it around the living room a bit and made sure it landed on the arms. The worst that happened was the motors sliding about 10mm on the arms which is by design (no hard mounting locators). I get tons of flak for the way I mount motors but I'd much rather loosen the motor screws to realign the motors than break something. I worry more about the vulnerable fc and camera than anything else.

with how easy those arms are to make, its fair logic. fair to say that it's fine for mild to medium tumbles but not hard hits(guess)?