HD Tadpole

By alexnesteruk on Jan 06, 2020

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Decided to see if I could build an HD tadpole. It's flying great for the most part, but there is a small amount of jello on high throttle and some washout/jello when dropping throttle to 0 then raising it back up. This seems to be a common issue with the split-cam setup. I'm still working on improving the tune. The props pictured are actually 2" props but I'm currently flying it with 2.5" props and it does very well. I've had much better luck with the 3 blade props than the 2 blades. I have some more 3 blade props with different pitches(1.5,2.5,3.5) on the way to test. I will update this with my findings.

Side Notes :
-For the stack, I had to use longer 16mm M2 screws. The included 10mm/12mm M2 screws were not long enough. I also used 2 stacked nylon hex nuts on each 16mm screw to prop up the AIO board enough so that the RX and VTX could fit underneath(each of which are conformal coated/heatshrinked for isolation). This made for a very clean look.
-The Mamba AIO board is 25.5mm x 25.5mm and the Runcam Split3 Nano Whoop is 25mmx x 25mm. This made it a tight fit and the screws angle in ever so slightly. It doesn't seem to have any effect on performance or durability though. I would recommend metal hardware becuase of this though.
-The runcam split 3 nano lens sticks out past the cage a few milimeters, so there isnt full protection of the lens on this build.

Motor KV: 6000
Dry weight: 82 grams
Flight time is around 3 minutes of hard ripping with a 450mah 3s pack. Currently testing flight times with 550mah and 650mah packs.

Videos:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6b5ts9n2K9/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B69HtHcn0E4/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7vzGGbH_7K/

Update(1/28/2020):
After trying 1.5 pitch(65mm) and 3.5 pitch(2.5 in) 3-Blade HQ Props , I can say that the 65mm 1.5 pitch are going to be the best for smooth, jello-free HD video and battery efficiency.
The 2.5in 3.5 pitch are fast and fun, but there will need to be more tuning to get them to fly smoothly with no jello, especially with the split HD cam.
So far I've been testing with the stock tune and only adjusted the rates.

Photos

Part List

Frame

Armattan Tadpole 65mm/2.5" Frame (2 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$34.00

Flight Controller

Diatone Mamba Toothpick AIO (FC+ESC AIO)
Fpvcycle.com
$44.99

Motors

4 x iFLIGHT XING NANO X1105 FPV NextGen Motor (CHOOSE KV)
Pyrodrone.com
$59.96

Propellers

HQ Durable Prop T65MM (5CW+5CCW)-Poly Carbonate (7 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$2.99

Propellers

HQ Props T2.5x3.5x3PC (5 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$1.60

FPV Camera

RunCam Split 3 NANO WHOOP 14x14mm FPV / HD Camera (3 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$69.99

FPV Transmitter

TBS UNIFY PRO32 NANO 5G8 (108 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$29.95

Antenna

EMAX Nano 5.8G Antenna - RHCP UFL (2 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$7.99

Receiver

FrSky R-XSR S.Bus/CPPM 8/16 Channel Micro Receiver (14 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$19.99

Batteries

GNB 3S 11.4V HV 450mah LiPo Battery 80C XT30 LiHV
Pyrodrone.com
$10.49
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jromang   30 days ago  
1

Very nice ! I think about building a similar setup, and I have few questions :
-Why did you choose the RunCam Split 3 NANO ? I saw there is a Caddx Baby turtle whoop version, maybe it could solve the lens size problem ; but I couldn't find the caddx camera size to see if it's shorter than the runcam.
-Would you recommend another AIO FC to solve the size en screw angle ?

alexnesteruk   30 days ago 

No reason to go with the runcam over the Caddx. I may try the Caddx split cam on a future build if there is a 16x16 or whoop size.
I had to go with the toothpick style FC because as far as I know, there are no split cams in 16x16 stack size. If you don't care about hd, then I'd go with a mamba nano stack.

MakeitHappen   Jan 08, 2020  
1

Once I seen the AIO mamba I had the same idea. Then Bam! You got it done. Nice job, looks like a good flyer.

alexnesteruk   Jan 09, 2020 
1

It's great! I'd highly recomment this setup.

DoubleJackOnTap   Jan 06, 2020  
1

Looks great!  What Kv motors are you running?

alexnesteruk   Jan 07, 2020 
1

6000 KV. I'll add it to the description. Didn't realize it didn't say.

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