honestly I think they are the same motors. i have had the red bottoms on a similar 20x20 build a few years ago. i do prefer the 6k over the 4500 just seem peppier and not as power hungry

Great to know, thanks. Ive 1106s on 2052 Gemfans at the minute but might try the 3016s. Are the 1106 6000kv a good paring with the 3016s on 3s ?

on a 3" prop (any of them, 3018 bi blade to a 3030 quad blade) as built in the picture is insanely fast. we're talk 90mph or faster on a 350mah 3s with around a 4 minute flight time of some pretty aggressive flying (and crashing). total weight on this build is like 110g auw. power to weight ratio is about 11:1 its nuts. coming from a 3d airplane to quads i focus on the

So 1106s at 6000kv are not over propped on 3" 3s. Good to know :}

the canopy is a speed racer twig XL that was purchased separately from racedayquads, I bought it with the intention of putting in a caddx ratel Micro camera literally a day or two before the nano version hit the market.