The motors are excellent for freestyle when running 4s 450mah, but not quite as amazing with 4s 650mah. It cruises, and does cinematic well on 4s 650, but does not quite have the juice to pull out of dives at the last second at that weight. Funny enough the flight time is pretty similar on both size batteries. Flight time is about 3 minutes 40 seconds straight up ripping. Yeah thats an old milk jug, seemed a little more interesting than my desk for the pics. Thanks for the comment. Hope you have a nice day.

By the way do you listen to JFA "Jodie Fosters Army" They are good. Haha

Never heard of them, i'll check it out!

I have a 3" that I run on both those batteries, and have noticed that the flight time is VERY similar. Curious.
Mine runs on 1407 4100kv emax, and HQ 3x4x3.
For me, it's so curious because when I look at the volume of the two batteries I REALLY see that one is 2/3 the size of the other. Talking to you now, it's pointing me at the weight being so much more critical (I guess I should call it pivotal...) when you get down to 3" or smaller. It seems like you add enough weight to have solid amp output (to recover from dives, and the like), and it decreases flight time per gram of battery, by close to the difference in size.
There might be a formula in there somewhere... Is there already math of this?
Did you magically get to the exact weight where adding 30% more battery makes you get exactly 30% less flight time per watt hour?

I have built about 25 different 3" quads in the last 16 months or so. It has just been from testing different rigs. I have tried 1105, 1106, 1306, 1404, 1504, 1407, 1408, 1507, 1804, and 2203.5. I have found that if you are going to run a insta360 go 1, or 2 you are going to have to run at least 1306 or bigger to get decent performance. This was all before i found ciotti on youtube. Interesting enough i have basically come to the same conclusions as he has. I have also built 10 or so 3.5". 10 or so 4", and about 7 different 5". so i guess im getting a feel for what works for me anyway. For 3" i like the frame to weigh 33 to 44 grams or so, and 1504 would be the smallest motors i like for this type of setup. i will be posting all my builds that i have now over the next few months. i currently have 1-2.5", 11-3", 3-3.5", 4-4", and 6-5" quads. so i hope you will check those out as well.

You are awesome.. lol. I do the same thing, I build a LOT.. Possibly more than I fly. So I have a list that's kind of like yours. Can't wait to see more! I should be posting mine, but It takes so much time to get decent photos, and make a good write up for each one, including links.. Anywho, I should just get to it. Thank you for sharing your builds!

i will try to add some. i have literally only had time to put like 3 packs through it since i built it. The tune is still a little off.

Thanks. I used race wires on this one because i was not sure if i was going to like these motors, and may need to change, but they are working out pretty well.