Initially I wanted to wait until a few more manufacturers to jump on the bandwagon with these 100g cinewhoops, so I get the best one. But after talking about it with my flying buddies, the idea of these quads has intrigued me. In the past, quads like these were plagued with jello and vibration. Plus adding a DJI O3 is just asking for trouble. After doing some research the BetaFPV Pavo Pico looked promising. Ideally, I would have rather purchased the kit where you plug in the DJI O3 system and you are done, but it was sold out everywhere. The only option I had was to buy everything separately from Pyrodrone. Because I bought everything separately, I saved some money because I did not have to buy the 450mah 2s lipo that came with the kit. If those lipos are anything like the 1s versions, they are not very good when compared to the RDQ batteries.
My first dilemma during this build was the motor plugs. Should I save some weight and not solder it on? Or use them so it is more convenient to switch out the motors? This is why you see this picture on the right, to get an idea of the extra weight I will add. As you can see, it is not by much and that is why I was okay with using the plug.
I should also factor in the extra wires and plug on the motor end too, but in the end, it was an acceptable weight gain.
The price Betafpv charges for the Pavo Pico frame is unbelievable because you get so much for only $8.99. They even include a set of dipole antennas and that alone is wroth $6. This kit has all the hardware needed to complete this build, screws, vibration dampeners and etc.
Here is a picture comparing the Hurricane 2” cinewhoop next to the Pavo Pico. There is NOT a significant difference when looking from the top because the footprint is similar.
When you look at its profile view the Pavo Pico is slimmer and shorter, especially if you add a naked GoPro on the Hurricane frame. But the weight difference is only 29 grams. If you take a look at the build details about the Hurrican 2" you can see it is a great setup for lifting a naked Gopro. What I found interesting is that the DJI O3 systems only weighs 2 grams more than a Caddx Vista. But for my Hurricane build I de-cased the caddx vista to save about 10g in weight. Even though these 2 quads are similar in size, I think they are 2 very different quads because one is built to be flown as is (Pavo Pico) and the other is meant to carry an HD camera.
The AUW (All Up Weight) for the Pavo Pico is 100g and the Hurrican 2” is 200g. As for the flight performance, both quads fly very similar but the 2 huge notable differences are the flight times and sound level. The Pavo Pico gets a solid 3 minute flight time and is not very loud. On the other hand, the Hurricane 2” is loud, but gets about 6 minutes of flight time.
Flight Performance
I plan to use the quad to record cinematic video in close proximity to soft targets and flying through small gaps. May goal for this quad is to have little to no vibration when flying slow. In this picture you see here, it could be a cause for unwanted vibration.
The first thing I did was move the cable from the back of the camera to somewhere else. In my case, I moved the excess wiring to the bottom of the O3 air unit. Then I removed the filter from the camera and hope the lower weight in the front of the camera would further reduce any possible vibration. But I will revisit this idea because I will need to use ND filters in the future, so this might not be a good solution.
After watching Albert Kim's video about solving the vibration/jello issues, he inspired me to use the same vibration dampeners that I put on all my AOS builds. All I had to do was drill out the hole so I can fit the silicone vibration dampeners in it.
Here you can see how it fits after you feed the dampeners inside the larger hole.
As you can see in the picture, the camera will be completely isolated from the cage.
Now the camera is free floating and is NOT touch any part of the cage, even the screw is completed isolated too.
More Updates to come!!!!
I just ordered a Flywoo Naked O3 Air Unit Conversion Kit, so I will see how this weight reduction will affect its performance.
With GyroFlow
DJI HD video with EIS On
Same video as above but recored with the Goggle's DVR
First SLOW indoor flight with Gyroflow
First FAST indoor flight with Gyroflow
Frame |
BetaFPV Pavo Pico Brushless Whoop Frame (with HD VTX Bracket) - Choose Color
(7 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
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$8.99 |
Flight Controller |
BetaFPV Toothpick F405 1S 12A AIO Brushless Flight Controller V3 ELRS 2.4G SPI - Choose MCU Type
(8 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
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$49.99 |
Motors |
BetaFPV 1102 14000KV Brushless Motors 37mm Wire W/Connector (2022 Version) - 4PCS
(4 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
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$39.99 |
Propellers |
Gemfan 45mm-3 Tri-Blade 1.5mm Shaft Propellers - (4CW+4CCW) - Choose Color
(6 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
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$2.49 |
FPV Transmitter |
DJI O3 Air Unit
(86 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
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$228.99 |
Batteries |
RDQ Series 7.6V 2S 525mAh 80C LiHV Micro Battery - XT30
(8 builds)
Racedayquads.com
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$7.99 |
Hardware |
BetaFPV Whoop Flight Controller Screw and Rubber Dampener Set
(4 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
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$9.99 |
Great summary of this awesome craft.
I have gone through two frames so far, one a fire, one just being abuse and it was weak.
I bought some replacement frames, but they broke when transferring everything over.
As much fun as these are, they are seeming to be more fragile each time I build a new one. The latest one, third frame now, has some unexplained wobbles that I cannot find the source of. The first two were flawless and flew with zero issues, minus the fire on one.
I've got one last full frame to build on, but it will probably be my last one, while I really like flying these, there is some design flaw in the frame that makes them very different from box to box. First two were very strong, the next two are really flimsy.
I'd design the prop guards to be CF as well, the plastic they are using in the latest batches is much too soft.
As soon as I iron out my wobbles on my Picklewhoop, I'll probably just iterate that frame to be my next O3 whoop. Slightly larger, but at least it is tougher. I'll go broke if I keep flying the Pico Pavo. 100 bucks a pop! Not too bad at first, but with how weak they are, it will get annoying. Plus BetaFPV did me dirty on a SuperD so I'm writing them off except their batteries.
Thanks for the info, which part of the frame did you break. I will need to keep an eye out for it. There are more and more frames jumping into this sub 100g game, so I want to see what better options we will have. The Pavo Pico is a great start, but I am sure there will be something better. Sorry to hear about the problems you are having with BetaFPV. I just purchased a Flywoo O3 Lite kit and will see how it does on the Pavo Pico frame. It will lower the weight of the quad from 72g to 60g.
The piece connecting the ducts, on the...passenger side. I mean starboard side, or whatever. It just broke. I'm not sure if this is an issue with later batches, or what. But the frame is noticeably more "flexy" than the first two I got. Huh?
I hear you on the competition. I have a Mobula8 for the O3 lite coming in. I like the Pavo, but flying my Mobula7 is way better. I need to look at lowering the cam and bringing forward a bit. Like Fractal. I like how he has him camera mounted.
Can't wait to see your build.
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