Yeah they run a little warm but since I finished tuning it not to bad. Before I tuned (just stock BF 3.2 PIDs) they were really hot. Thing scoots now. Had to go super super low on values and both notch filter are off and Dynamic filtering on.

whoa... whats your weight all up? how many packs have you gone through?

I have only weighed it empty, this little guy comes in at a whopping 100g with the guards and 97g without the guards. Tattu’s site says the batteries weigh in at 55g for 450mah 4S. So 155g AUW.

As for flights I’ve put about 40 packs through this setup fastest one discharging the whole battery in about 1.5min, that was a fun flight. So far no issues still flys with no performance sag.

wow, I thought I bought the wrong motors for 4s but it seems like their doing great! I'm inspired! can you share your pids?

just finished building. I'm setting up now and when I spin my motors up from betaflight in the motors tab and run it at half throttle, the motors get hot, on a 3s batter. no props. what gives?
I'm running a xjb f428.
What motor timing is your ESC set at? and demag? also, what ESC firmware version are you running?

Sent you a message I will post screen shots on here when I get them.

You can get the kit here:
https://www.flyrcnow.com/collections/new-to-flyrcnow/products/2-panda-cub-kit