Hyperlite Floss v1 - 5" w/ 1806 Motors

By wrong17 on Oct 25, 2018

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After trying a few different motors combinations, I end up settling with a set of old school T-Motor 1806 2300kv motors that came off a Vortex 285. Even though the 1407 2722kv motor is lighter it did not have enough punch to really move the quad. The 1806 motors had no problems turn a 3 blade HQ V1S 5X4.5X3 5" Props, in fact the motor came down cool after 6 minutes on an 850mah 4s pack. Before going to a larger 1806 motor I did try using a DYS 1407 3600kv motor and I did like the extra KV but the motors were hotter than I would like.

I also flew a friends Floss with Hyperlite 2205 2500KV motor and it did not seem to have a huge difference in performance over the 1806 motors so that is why I will keep using what I have.

I am a big fan of Gemfan Flash 5152 props and the 1806 motors did a pretty go job turning them, but once you start going past 60 percent throttle your efficiency really starts to tank. Another great feature I like about these props is how super quiet it is. I flew few packs with these props and I really like how it felt and the motors was only warm. However, the 850mah battery takes a bit of a beating. Then I decided to give the HQ V1S 5x4x3 5" Props a try because it was much lighter than the Gemfan Flash. With the HQ props the quad dropped about 8 grams, so now it weighs only 194g. Without changing the PIDs and only the props, the HQ props felt pretty good and simialr to the Gemfan Flash. With smaller props, lower pitch, and weight I was able to get longer flight times and less strain on the 850mah lipo. By changing to HQ props, it is a win-win situation.

Side note, I need to work on the positioning of the crossfire antenna. I might go back to the standard antenna because it more flexible in term on how to run it.

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Part List

Frame

Hyperlite FLOSS 5 inch 14XX Racing Frame (2 builds)
Getfpv.com
$44.99

Flight Controller

HGLRC XJB F428 V2 Stack - F4 Flight Controller - 28A Blheli_S ESC (14 builds)
Getfpv.com
$63.99

Motors

4 x Vortex 285 OEM Motor 1806 / 2300kV
Antigravitysports.com
$103.60

Propellers

HQ Prop 5x4.3x3 V1S Tri-Blade 5" Prop 4 Pack - Choose Your ColorBlue (376 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$3.69

FPV Camera

Foxeer Products (25 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$39.90

FPV Transmitter

Eachine VTX03 Super Mini 5.8G 72CH 0/25mW/50mw/200mW Switchable FPV Transmitter (426 builds)
Banggood.com
$12.22

Antenna

Realacc UXII Stubby RHCP U.FL/IPEX IPX 5.8GHz 1.6dBi Mini FPV Antenna For TX RX Fatshark Goggles R (28 builds)
Banggood.com
$7.09

Receiver

TBS Crossfire Nano RX Special Edition (335 builds)
Pirofliprc.com
$34.95

Batteries

Tattu 850mAh 14.8V 75C 4S1P Lipo Battery Pack with XT30 plug (67 builds)
Flexrc.com
$18.86

Radio

Team BlackSheep TBS TANGO 2 PRO RC RADIO (19 builds)
Heli-nation.com
$199.99

Goggles

DJI Digital HD FPV Goggles (87 builds)
Getfpv.com
$529.00

HD Camera

GoPro HERO8 Black - Waterproof Action Camera with Touch Screen 4K Ultra HD Video 12MP Photos 1080p Live Streaming Stabilization (13 builds)
Amazon.com
$349.00

HD Camera

Insta360 GO Stabilized Camera FlowState Stabilization Mount Anywhere Hands Free Auto Edit Water Resistant Slow-mo Sport Action V (3 builds)
Amazon.com
$186.99

Misc Parts

Pyro Drone Hyperlite FLOSS Pimp Package by Dblnaknak
Thingiverse.com
See Site

Misc Parts

Micro Swift Camera Mount - Floss (Floss 2) by Airmaxx23 (4 builds)
Thingiverse.com
See Site

Video Receiver

ImmersionRC rapidFIRE w/ Analog PLUS Goggle Receiver Module (145 builds)
Getfpv.com
$149.99

Battery Charger

HOTA D6 PRO Charger AC200W DC650W 15A (6 builds)
Pyrodrone.com
$119.00

Soldering Iron

TS100 Portable Programmable Smart Soldering Iron (170 builds)
Racedayquads.com
$51.29

Backpack

Lowepro QuadGuard BP X3 - Drone Backpack for 4 FPV Quad Racing Drones and 15" Laptop w/Exterior Mounts (Black)
Amazon.com
$286.00

Accessories

BoYz analog bay v2 for DJI FPV goggles
Themakerboyz.com
$23.98

Accessories

Analog FPV FatShark Module Adapter V2 for DJI Digital FPV Goggles
Pyrodrone.com
$11.99

Accessories

FuriousFPV Smart Power Case V2
Helidirect.com
See Site
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Discussion

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buildflycrash   Oct 28, 2018  

i have a similar build planned. did you drill out thr hglrc f428 to fit m3 hardware?

wrong17   Nov 04, 2018 
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I used m2 hardware to mount the f428 stack. Take a look at my orginal build for more detailed pictures of the stack: https://rotorbuilds.com/build/13708

Nolanfeatherstun   Oct 26, 2018  

you are going to be soooo disappointed by those motors.

wrong17   Oct 26, 2018 

Actually, I like it way better than any 1407 motors I have tried. Since I have a pile of arms that only fits 1407 motors the next best thing are the 1806. I rather build another quad if I jump to the larger 22XX size motors.

Nolanfeatherstun   Oct 28, 2018 

the bell strips out extremely easily. Even normal tightening and youll lose some thread.

Also if a prop snags on something, the entire bell just comes right off.

source: I owned a vortex 285 and regretted it majorly

TeamWolfFPV   Oct 26, 2018  

Cool setup with the motor selection! You might want to try T5051C DAL Cyclones, the crystal thin ones, on this build. As long as the amp draw isn't too much for your batteries, you might find they feel good on a lighter build because they spin up and down really fast.

wrong17   Oct 27, 2018 

I guess I will have to add the T5051C DAL Cyclones to my list of props to try too. As of now all I know is that the HQ 5x4x3 V1S props flies great with the 1806 2300kv motors. The motors come down cool and the battery is happy.

TeamWolfFPV   Oct 26, 2018  

For your antenna options, you can get a TBS Crossfire Micro dipole antenna. It's flexible, and then you can mount it in more creative ways, especially if you aren't necessarily pushing range.

wrong17   Oct 27, 2018 

I wanted to try a TBS Crossfire XF-Race or go back to the stock antenna because I did see my RSSI reading drop a lot lower than some of my other quads with better antenna placement.

Jodie Froster   Oct 26, 2018  

Why swap the di-pole from the vTx03 for the heavier omni/3-D printed plastic bracket?

wrong17   Oct 26, 2018 

After switching a few of my smaller 2.5 and 3 inch quads di-pole antenna from the vtx03 to the a Realacc UXII Stubby I saw a huge improvement in the video. Since the Realacc UXII Stubby only weighs 1.6grams, that is well worth the video improvement. I did not use a mount for the smaller quads like I did on this build, So the floss did have a little more weight for the 3d printed part. I guess I could have hot glue the Realacc UXII Stubby to the frame, but a 5" quad should be able to handle the few extra grams. :)

Jodie Froster   Oct 26, 2018 

Ok, you have my attention. Imma check that out.

zaamii   Oct 26, 2018  

I think u should try some bi-blade props. Like the 2- blade flash 5152 or the oldschool hq 5x4.

wrong17   Oct 26, 2018 

Next time I make an order with RDQ, I will pick up a set of those props to try out. Thanks for the suggestion.

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